go_guy123
05-07 03:02 PM
First of all Congratulations desi#### and thanks for continuing to support IV.
Interesting discussion going on. Yes, I agree that most of us here are waiting for our GC and some of them go on to become US Citizens.
I believe that becoming a citizen of any country is a person's choice, so let us not give desi### a hard time here.:o
But I certainly do not think it is an 'achievement' to get a US citizenship, just because it implies indirectly it is an 'achievement' to let go off Indian citizenship. Nothing meant to offend you desi#### but it hurts when one reads such a statement somewhere deep inside the mind. But hey, as I said earlier, to each his own and noone should be judging others in their decisions.
And it is not only Indians becoming US citizens every year. There are others too.
Personally, even with all the advantages as stated above of being a US citizen, I will never let go of my Indian passport. Even if the authorities give it to me tomorrow in a lottery;) Never.
Why? Because my identity, my rich heritage, my family roots, my parents, my culture everything is Indian and am proud of it. There are lot of sentimental and emotional attachments. I was going through the OCI articles today after reading this discussion.
It is not exactly a dual citizenship. Some clauses are no voting rights! No Indian Passport!
Getting a GC is another thing, but when I decide to go back after a couple of years, I would definitely want to retain my voting rights. ! I rest my case.
US citizenship is a final stop for most/many immigrants. Post Sep 11, there has been a surge in nationalization applications because technically GC is like a long term visa to stay permanently. Therefore there is always a risk of losing GC because of DUI or other trivial or accidental issues etc.
Also post Sep 11, a lot of govt/sensitive projects that were available for GC only have been restricted to US Citizens. You lose a significant chunk of the available jobs market if you are a GC holder in the Maryland/DC/North Virgina area. In fact I know a lot of GC who kept their old passports but because of these hassles eventually decided for Naturalization.
Interesting discussion going on. Yes, I agree that most of us here are waiting for our GC and some of them go on to become US Citizens.
I believe that becoming a citizen of any country is a person's choice, so let us not give desi### a hard time here.:o
But I certainly do not think it is an 'achievement' to get a US citizenship, just because it implies indirectly it is an 'achievement' to let go off Indian citizenship. Nothing meant to offend you desi#### but it hurts when one reads such a statement somewhere deep inside the mind. But hey, as I said earlier, to each his own and noone should be judging others in their decisions.
And it is not only Indians becoming US citizens every year. There are others too.
Personally, even with all the advantages as stated above of being a US citizen, I will never let go of my Indian passport. Even if the authorities give it to me tomorrow in a lottery;) Never.
Why? Because my identity, my rich heritage, my family roots, my parents, my culture everything is Indian and am proud of it. There are lot of sentimental and emotional attachments. I was going through the OCI articles today after reading this discussion.
It is not exactly a dual citizenship. Some clauses are no voting rights! No Indian Passport!
Getting a GC is another thing, but when I decide to go back after a couple of years, I would definitely want to retain my voting rights. ! I rest my case.
US citizenship is a final stop for most/many immigrants. Post Sep 11, there has been a surge in nationalization applications because technically GC is like a long term visa to stay permanently. Therefore there is always a risk of losing GC because of DUI or other trivial or accidental issues etc.
Also post Sep 11, a lot of govt/sensitive projects that were available for GC only have been restricted to US Citizens. You lose a significant chunk of the available jobs market if you are a GC holder in the Maryland/DC/North Virgina area. In fact I know a lot of GC who kept their old passports but because of these hassles eventually decided for Naturalization.
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InTheMoment
08-18 12:55 PM
Excellent point. It is called the Selective Service System (www.sss.gov), used when the President orders a military draft (like the ones during WW2 and Vietnam war)
You have to register (males only) if you become a Permanent Resident in the ages 18-26; otherwise you could have problems during naturalization (N-400 has a specific question for Selective Service) and securing Federal Student Aid.
You have to register (males only) if you become a Permanent Resident in the ages 18-26; otherwise you could have problems during naturalization (N-400 has a specific question for Selective Service) and securing Federal Student Aid.
desi3933
08-19 02:01 PM
Well, s/he did say s/he was proud to be an INDIAN-American, didn't s/he? In the order you wanted...
I don't have to tell anyone how I feel about my country-of-origin. Whatever I am, I am due to India.
One can take man of out India, but never India out of man.
__________________________________________________ _
Proud to be an Indian-American and Legal Immigrant.
I don't have to tell anyone how I feel about my country-of-origin. Whatever I am, I am due to India.
One can take man of out India, but never India out of man.
__________________________________________________ _
Proud to be an Indian-American and Legal Immigrant.
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09-17 02:37 PM
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SGP
04-03 06:56 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD MORNING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
Dear IV Members,
If you believe that your success depends on your immigration process - whether it's the ability to file I-485 earlier or to get green-card and citizenship sooner or whether it's the ability of your spouse to work - then you have to believe that your success somehow depends on the success of Immigration voice and these 170 volunteers in DC next week.
As you may know, we are just one more week away from hosting Advocacy day in Washington DC where about 170 members of Immigration Voice will conduct nearly 250 meetings with offices of Senators and Congressmen. Such events cost money. If we have enough contributions, we can spend as per our budget of nearly $ 50,000. If not, we will have to cut back on the event spending and reduce the magnitude and size of the event.
If you are not coming to DC next week, please do your part and contribute funds to Immigration Voice. It not only finances the event properly, it instills pride and confidence in the members who will be there in DC that there are thousands of willing supporters behind them who could not be there physically but are 100% with them in their determination and resolve.
For background click here -> Announcement about April 2011 Advocacy Days (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a.html#post2301599)
Contribute to Advocacy Event on the Capitol Hill (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44#onetimepaypal) (All one-time contributions will go towards organizing the Advocacy Days event)
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
Dear IV Members,
If you believe that your success depends on your immigration process - whether it's the ability to file I-485 earlier or to get green-card and citizenship sooner or whether it's the ability of your spouse to work - then you have to believe that your success somehow depends on the success of Immigration voice and these 170 volunteers in DC next week.
As you may know, we are just one more week away from hosting Advocacy day in Washington DC where about 170 members of Immigration Voice will conduct nearly 250 meetings with offices of Senators and Congressmen. Such events cost money. If we have enough contributions, we can spend as per our budget of nearly $ 50,000. If not, we will have to cut back on the event spending and reduce the magnitude and size of the event.
If you are not coming to DC next week, please do your part and contribute funds to Immigration Voice. It not only finances the event properly, it instills pride and confidence in the members who will be there in DC that there are thousands of willing supporters behind them who could not be there physically but are 100% with them in their determination and resolve.
For background click here -> Announcement about April 2011 Advocacy Days (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a.html#post2301599)
Contribute to Advocacy Event on the Capitol Hill (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44#onetimepaypal) (All one-time contributions will go towards organizing the Advocacy Days event)
sanju
03-10 11:04 PM
Who told you that, a tweety bird???? you "I just thought" idiot.
Don't be after the whole town because your son doesn't resemble you, check your next door neighbor first....
Don't be after the whole town because your son doesn't resemble you, check your next door neighbor first....
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Green.Tech
06-17 05:13 PM
Bump.
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lazycis
10-18 09:09 PM
GCHPLC,
Do not delay, file a lawsuit. It's easier than you think and it will make the USCIS move.
Any questions, post here
http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?p=1804764&
Do not delay, file a lawsuit. It's easier than you think and it will make the USCIS move.
Any questions, post here
http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?p=1804764&
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priderock
11-28 02:23 PM
Agree totally. If you look at the history there has been opposition to immigration. They said bad things about Italians, Irish and others. Some of the haters are once hated. But the life goes on !!!!
I am a highly skilled professional working in this state providing a valuable service. I have a green card petition pending. Those like Lou Dobbs oppose migration of those of my kind, virtually any kind. Please tell me why? What do I tell my grateful patients, about this self acclaimed patriot?
His is an agenda against all immigration. He just finds the most convenient arguments now against illegal immigration. Let me explain, I am on H1b visa, he criticizes that as well. My conclusion is he wants me to leave too. Ask him to name one kind of immigration he is for.
His is an agenda against all immigration. I trust America can see past it. Recently I went to an upper end car dealership in Detroit to buy a car. The dealer there commented that if it were not for professionals like myself buying his cars, his dealership would struggle. I'm not sure why Lou Dobbs does not wish to understand that. He is certainly smart enough to do so. Perhaps he does not want to understand. He preys on the worst fears of people, instead of building on their optimism. That is not what got this country where it is. If this country were full of Lou Dobbs, frankly I would not want to be part of it. Fortunately, I believe it is not.
I am a highly skilled professional working in this state providing a valuable service. I have a green card petition pending. Those like Lou Dobbs oppose migration of those of my kind, virtually any kind. Please tell me why? What do I tell my grateful patients, about this self acclaimed patriot?
His is an agenda against all immigration. He just finds the most convenient arguments now against illegal immigration. Let me explain, I am on H1b visa, he criticizes that as well. My conclusion is he wants me to leave too. Ask him to name one kind of immigration he is for.
His is an agenda against all immigration. I trust America can see past it. Recently I went to an upper end car dealership in Detroit to buy a car. The dealer there commented that if it were not for professionals like myself buying his cars, his dealership would struggle. I'm not sure why Lou Dobbs does not wish to understand that. He is certainly smart enough to do so. Perhaps he does not want to understand. He preys on the worst fears of people, instead of building on their optimism. That is not what got this country where it is. If this country were full of Lou Dobbs, frankly I would not want to be part of it. Fortunately, I believe it is not.
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petepatel
09-17 11:24 AM
Cannot hear, he is saying something:mad:
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anandrajesh
02-13 10:50 PM
Attack my ideas and not me. Then we can have a debate conducive to achieving our goals.
Anand, there is a conference call scheduled this Friday. Pls join the conference call and pour in your ideas. Sure if your ideas are good and conceivable Core team would defly work on implementing it. Dont be an outsider, try to get more involved. Again if you want to be part of the Core Let Aman & Co know, they should be able to delegate you some responsibilites.
Just like you, everybody is frustrated with the lack of progress. But we do understand our limitations, we can only educate the lawmakers with our issues, but we cant arm twist them to do something favorable. We have to keep our expectations right. As Logiclife told if big corporations like Microsoft cant achieve what they, want who are we? Does this mean we shld quit and resign our fate. Live another day, Fight another day till we achieve what we want.
I contribute, i participate in the calls, i write to the reporters, i send faxes and emails to Senators/House Reps, Appear in Newspaper & Radio interviews and most of all Spare a Prayer to God to improve my situation. That is all i can do and if every one of us does what is needed sure something positive will happen. I am not a CORE member, just an ordinary member like YOU.
Anand, there is a conference call scheduled this Friday. Pls join the conference call and pour in your ideas. Sure if your ideas are good and conceivable Core team would defly work on implementing it. Dont be an outsider, try to get more involved. Again if you want to be part of the Core Let Aman & Co know, they should be able to delegate you some responsibilites.
Just like you, everybody is frustrated with the lack of progress. But we do understand our limitations, we can only educate the lawmakers with our issues, but we cant arm twist them to do something favorable. We have to keep our expectations right. As Logiclife told if big corporations like Microsoft cant achieve what they, want who are we? Does this mean we shld quit and resign our fate. Live another day, Fight another day till we achieve what we want.
I contribute, i participate in the calls, i write to the reporters, i send faxes and emails to Senators/House Reps, Appear in Newspaper & Radio interviews and most of all Spare a Prayer to God to improve my situation. That is all i can do and if every one of us does what is needed sure something positive will happen. I am not a CORE member, just an ordinary member like YOU.
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immi_twinges
07-17 12:29 PM
As someone mentioned on the other popst..DREAM ACT is for the children of illegal immigrants...not for the legal ones...
Dream act is for illegals only.
We should not rest with the ability to apply for the EAD and AP. I bet you you will realize its no good in near future.May be your spouse can work. But it is very frustrating.
AOS is gray area... some thing must be done to fix this waiting time
Dream act is for illegals only.
We should not rest with the ability to apply for the EAD and AP. I bet you you will realize its no good in near future.May be your spouse can work. But it is very frustrating.
AOS is gray area... some thing must be done to fix this waiting time
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ken
08-11 05:44 PM
I think some members have put their votes in wrong bucket.
Please check bucket BEFORE NOV 2002 and click on each member you will see some members from PD 2006 put their votes in this bucket.
Please check bucket BEFORE NOV 2002 and click on each member you will see some members from PD 2006 put their votes in this bucket.
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pappu
03-29 04:05 PM
Pappu,
I do agree that my success (both personal and professional) depends on:
1) Ability to file I-485 so my wife can start working. She has a MS in Computer Science degree which she acquired while on H4, which in an itself is a major accomplishment. But, she can't do much beyond this. Lots of employers stay away from filing H1 these days. So her best bet is get EAD soon so she can start working.
2) Ability to file I-485 gives the benefit of visa-stamp-less travel. We've been postponing traveling to India due to the hassles involved in H1 stamping.
3) Ability to get greencard will give us peace of mind for sure.
I do know IV is working to reduce backlogs, remove per-country quota, admin fixes, and much more. I do not of any other platform that is helping employment based immigrants...which is why I'm participating in the advocacy days and I just contributed $100 towards the cause.
I hope IV slowly but surely gets enough mass of people to become a self-sustaining organization that can make impact to the lives of immigrants. You and other IV volunteers are surely doing a great job.
Thanks.
Thank you for your support
I do agree that my success (both personal and professional) depends on:
1) Ability to file I-485 so my wife can start working. She has a MS in Computer Science degree which she acquired while on H4, which in an itself is a major accomplishment. But, she can't do much beyond this. Lots of employers stay away from filing H1 these days. So her best bet is get EAD soon so she can start working.
2) Ability to file I-485 gives the benefit of visa-stamp-less travel. We've been postponing traveling to India due to the hassles involved in H1 stamping.
3) Ability to get greencard will give us peace of mind for sure.
I do know IV is working to reduce backlogs, remove per-country quota, admin fixes, and much more. I do not of any other platform that is helping employment based immigrants...which is why I'm participating in the advocacy days and I just contributed $100 towards the cause.
I hope IV slowly but surely gets enough mass of people to become a self-sustaining organization that can make impact to the lives of immigrants. You and other IV volunteers are surely doing a great job.
Thanks.
Thank you for your support
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santb1975
06-03 11:36 AM
We need more calls. The number of calls we make will get the Rep. to look into our bills and make a decision
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belmontboy
04-20 02:49 PM
so you are agreeing with all the bs which getgreensoon1 is saying
man you guys need to grow up
ignore :D
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sobers
02-24 09:32 AM
ADVISORY BOARD*
http://www.irishlobbyusa.org/board.php
� Denis Kelleher, Chairman, Wall Street Access
� Charles Feeney, Founder, Atlantic Philantrophies
� Declan Kelly, Chairman, Financial Dynamics
� Ned McGinley, National President, Ancient Order of Hibernians
� Bart Murphy, President of the Coalition of Irish Immigration Centers
� Father Colm Campbell, President, Irish Center New York
� Adrian Flannelly, Chairman, Flannelly Promotions
� Frank Durkan, Senior Partner, O'Dwyer and Bernstien Law firm
� Ciaran Staunton, Co-Founder, Irish Immigration Reform Movement
� Attracta Lyndon, Chairman, Irish Business Organization
� Debbie McGoldrick Senior Editor, Green Card Columnist Irish Voice
� Aine Sheridan, President, Flannelly Promotions
� Jack Irwin, Irish Liasion, Governor George Pataki
� Jeff Cleary, Asst Commissioner for Government Affairs for Governor George Pataki
� John Dearie, Former assemblyman, Founder Irish Presidential forums
* Elliot Engel, Congressman for District 17 (Bronx, Westchester and Rockland)
http://www.irishlobbyusa.org/board.php
� Denis Kelleher, Chairman, Wall Street Access
� Charles Feeney, Founder, Atlantic Philantrophies
� Declan Kelly, Chairman, Financial Dynamics
� Ned McGinley, National President, Ancient Order of Hibernians
� Bart Murphy, President of the Coalition of Irish Immigration Centers
� Father Colm Campbell, President, Irish Center New York
� Adrian Flannelly, Chairman, Flannelly Promotions
� Frank Durkan, Senior Partner, O'Dwyer and Bernstien Law firm
� Ciaran Staunton, Co-Founder, Irish Immigration Reform Movement
� Attracta Lyndon, Chairman, Irish Business Organization
� Debbie McGoldrick Senior Editor, Green Card Columnist Irish Voice
� Aine Sheridan, President, Flannelly Promotions
� Jack Irwin, Irish Liasion, Governor George Pataki
� Jeff Cleary, Asst Commissioner for Government Affairs for Governor George Pataki
� John Dearie, Former assemblyman, Founder Irish Presidential forums
* Elliot Engel, Congressman for District 17 (Bronx, Westchester and Rockland)
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StuckInTheMuck
04-28 07:29 AM
Thanks InTheMoment and seahawks - your points have been added to the list.
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Macaca
03-14 10:53 AM
IV forums do not have much info about IV activities because it is not possible to mention IV activities on anonymous forums. On the other hand, forums have ignorant and irritating posts. Forum post quality is a reflection on members and NOT a reflection on core.
It is easy to conclude that IV has no direction and there is no leadership. However, if you read core posts carefully, analyze core decisions (choosing lobbying firm, ...) and follow media reported facts, you will conclude that core is in the right direction.
I called (without blocking my ID) Aman (first time) on 2nd March 2007. The only reason for my call was to check IV's survival in the continued absence of financial contributions. I did not ask anything else. However, he gave me some info about IV activities that I verified. I can assure you that
you are in very good hands (much better then I thought) as long as IV exists, and
Aman (and core) are very decent persons (once again, much better then I thought).
Thus, I very strongly endorse the following. That is, IV forums do not reflect IV activities. Also, core knows the worth of member posts that include info reported by media, lawyers, blog sites, ...; verify the validity of this statement based on the outcome of such events reported in the past.
I would request you and your like-minded friend not to confuse the organization with the website. The website is only a tool.
ImmigrationVoice Organization on the other hand, consists of some influential core members who have been working on EB-based issues for more than a year.
The continuing response of financially non-contributing (non-) members is self-destructive ONLY.
It is easy to conclude that IV has no direction and there is no leadership. However, if you read core posts carefully, analyze core decisions (choosing lobbying firm, ...) and follow media reported facts, you will conclude that core is in the right direction.
I called (without blocking my ID) Aman (first time) on 2nd March 2007. The only reason for my call was to check IV's survival in the continued absence of financial contributions. I did not ask anything else. However, he gave me some info about IV activities that I verified. I can assure you that
you are in very good hands (much better then I thought) as long as IV exists, and
Aman (and core) are very decent persons (once again, much better then I thought).
Thus, I very strongly endorse the following. That is, IV forums do not reflect IV activities. Also, core knows the worth of member posts that include info reported by media, lawyers, blog sites, ...; verify the validity of this statement based on the outcome of such events reported in the past.
I would request you and your like-minded friend not to confuse the organization with the website. The website is only a tool.
ImmigrationVoice Organization on the other hand, consists of some influential core members who have been working on EB-based issues for more than a year.
The continuing response of financially non-contributing (non-) members is self-destructive ONLY.
Vexir
05-31 02:18 AM
Working on mine :)
logiclife
03-20 01:55 PM
You have to be aggressive and presistent to get a new job where you get better pay that is above the prevailing wage.
Secondly, if you are being paid lower than prevailing wage right now in H1B, your company is breaking the law and you could be in trouble too.
You need to get out before this thing turns into a nightmare and put your resumes out there on monster, dice etc...and GET THE HELL OUT. The job market is good right now and this is the best time to look for jobs that you can
1. Stay there for 5-6 years while you GC is processed.
2. Has decent pay, well above the prevailing wages.
Do IT NOW before the housing led recession slows the economy down again and job switch becomes difficult. What are you waiting for?
Secondly, if you are being paid lower than prevailing wage right now in H1B, your company is breaking the law and you could be in trouble too.
You need to get out before this thing turns into a nightmare and put your resumes out there on monster, dice etc...and GET THE HELL OUT. The job market is good right now and this is the best time to look for jobs that you can
1. Stay there for 5-6 years while you GC is processed.
2. Has decent pay, well above the prevailing wages.
Do IT NOW before the housing led recession slows the economy down again and job switch becomes difficult. What are you waiting for?
