Humhongekamyab
07-03 12:59 PM
That is right. There are people knowingly get into dirty deals with employers like
(1) Faking experience
(2) Working out per diems in percentages
(3) Changing job titles to suit their needs
(4) Most important - employee tries to do what he/she can to keep employer happy as the green card petition is filed - I have seen this - people I know do this - they lick the boots of their employer - get coworkers fired so that their jobs are secure - get personal in alomost everything with employer so that they feel secure and job satisfied - These are the people who come out anonymously and talk bad bad things about their employer because they know they are into a screwed up relationship - no pay hikes, employer cheating on perdiems - employer knows employee is ass kissing and talks sweet but exploits - employee knows that things are not going to be the same for a prollonged period - puts a false mask and blames organizations like IV for not doing anything - these are the folks who encourage employers to do what they want to do.
And the day these employees get their green cards, they will open they companies and will do the same thing to the new immigrants; and the circus will go on.
(1) Faking experience
(2) Working out per diems in percentages
(3) Changing job titles to suit their needs
(4) Most important - employee tries to do what he/she can to keep employer happy as the green card petition is filed - I have seen this - people I know do this - they lick the boots of their employer - get coworkers fired so that their jobs are secure - get personal in alomost everything with employer so that they feel secure and job satisfied - These are the people who come out anonymously and talk bad bad things about their employer because they know they are into a screwed up relationship - no pay hikes, employer cheating on perdiems - employer knows employee is ass kissing and talks sweet but exploits - employee knows that things are not going to be the same for a prollonged period - puts a false mask and blames organizations like IV for not doing anything - these are the folks who encourage employers to do what they want to do.
And the day these employees get their green cards, they will open they companies and will do the same thing to the new immigrants; and the circus will go on.
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hebbar77
03-26 04:19 PM
My guess:
They are just "touch *" in the directory containing 485 files. I stopped monitoring the STATUS of my 485 and got onto something fun!
They are just "touch *" in the directory containing 485 files. I stopped monitoring the STATUS of my 485 and got onto something fun!
desi485
02-28 02:14 PM
I had a quick question to ask. My, current H-1 visa is expiring on July 30, 2008. Also, my current I-94 and I-797 is expirin on the same date. I am eleigible to apply for extension 6 months in advance, starting Jan. 30, 2008. However, my question is if I apply for my H-1 visa extension now (say Feb. 28, 2008) and the extension comes by April 30, 2008; will that invalidate my H-1 visa stamped till July 30, 2008.
Please refer me to any official memos if available. Thanks in advance.
This is a wrong thread for asking this question. This thread is for discussing issues of using AP on future H1B transfer or extensions.
However, as per my knowledge, your stamped visa till last date still remains valid. Pls check with your attorney.
Please refer me to any official memos if available. Thanks in advance.
This is a wrong thread for asking this question. This thread is for discussing issues of using AP on future H1B transfer or extensions.
However, as per my knowledge, your stamped visa till last date still remains valid. Pls check with your attorney.
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jimytomy
04-19 10:37 AM
Jimmy,
Did you change employer when you ported from eb3 to eb2, or stayed with the same employer?
- 2004 filed for Labor and started EB3 process.
- Company got acquired in later years . Filed new I140 ( I think it is called successor-in-interest)
- Recently started fresh EB2 process for interfiling of EB3 to EB2 . GC approved.
Thanks,
Jimytomy
Did you change employer when you ported from eb3 to eb2, or stayed with the same employer?
- 2004 filed for Labor and started EB3 process.
- Company got acquired in later years . Filed new I140 ( I think it is called successor-in-interest)
- Recently started fresh EB2 process for interfiling of EB3 to EB2 . GC approved.
Thanks,
Jimytomy
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willgetgc2005
11-16 12:11 PM
PAPPU,
I got a response from the dowjones guy .Mark.Boslet@dowjones.com
I will write to him.
On a side note, It appears that false propaganda is being spread about our taxes and SS contributions we make to raise more anti feelings about us.
To the contrary we contribute to the SS coffers without making use of it. We need to counter this.
Yes amitjoey. thanks a lot for that help. I wish more people participated in it. infact if more members can continue to do it today it will be very helpful. yesterday there were at least 3 mails from reporters expressing interest in us. This was because a few people wrote to them about IV and requested them to do a followup article abut us. I had found about 72 articles yesterday morning and we had more than 50 potential reporters to contact.It is not easy to get press coverage and this is one opportunity where we can captitalize on the venture captitalist story (no pun intentended).
I got a response from the dowjones guy .Mark.Boslet@dowjones.com
I will write to him.
On a side note, It appears that false propaganda is being spread about our taxes and SS contributions we make to raise more anti feelings about us.
To the contrary we contribute to the SS coffers without making use of it. We need to counter this.
Yes amitjoey. thanks a lot for that help. I wish more people participated in it. infact if more members can continue to do it today it will be very helpful. yesterday there were at least 3 mails from reporters expressing interest in us. This was because a few people wrote to them about IV and requested them to do a followup article abut us. I had found about 72 articles yesterday morning and we had more than 50 potential reporters to contact.It is not easy to get press coverage and this is one opportunity where we can captitalize on the venture captitalist story (no pun intentended).
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01-31 07:02 PM
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lazycis
01-09 11:53 AM
Thank you Lazycis...
I was out of status for more than a year when I got married
You will need to apply for a waiver of inadmissibility (I-601) if you have not done it yet.
I was out of status for more than a year when I got married
You will need to apply for a waiver of inadmissibility (I-601) if you have not done it yet.
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shishya
06-13 07:42 PM
Lol... looks like then you have to marry an american gori/gora or ABCD. :D Hopefully you will find a partner in india and get married before 485 gets approved
Oh yeah .. but that is provided I can file my 485 by that time. Given my PD was just May 06, I had NO preparation for 485 filing, wonder how much time gathering up all the required docs takes for this filing :)
Oh yeah .. but that is provided I can file my 485 by that time. Given my PD was just May 06, I had NO preparation for 485 filing, wonder how much time gathering up all the required docs takes for this filing :)
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immi_enthu
07-18 12:50 PM
http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/ReceiptingTimes071307.pdf
Office of Communications
USCIS Update
July 13, 2007
USCIS ISSUES SERVICE CENTER RECEIPTING UPDATE
WASHINGTON � In an effort to give our customers accurate information about current receipting times and service level commitments, United States Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS) is providing the following projections concerning fee receipting and data entry processing of cases currently at USCIS Service Centers as well as the anticipated in time-compliance dates at each site.
California Service Center
USCIS expects to provide in time-compliance for receipting of form types listed below:
Data Entry:
Compliant BY
N-400
7/18/2007
All other forms are currently in time-compliance.
Nebraska Service Center
USCIS expects to provide in time-compliance for receipting of form types listed below:
Data Entry:
Compliant BY
I-131
7/18/2007
I-360
7/18/2007
I-485
7/18/2007
I-140
7/18/2007
N-400
7/18/2007
All other forms are currently in time-compliance.
Texas Service Center
USCIS expects to provide in time-compliance for receipting of form types listed below:
Data Entry:
Compliant BY
I-485 (EB)
8/3/2007
N-400
8/10/2007
I-131
8/3/2007
I-765
8/3/2007
I-140
8/3/2007
All other forms are currently in time-compliance.
Vermont Service Center
USCIS expects to provide in time-compliance for receipting of form types listed below:
Data Entry:
Compliant BY
I-130
7/28/2007
I-751
7/28/2007
N-400
7/28/2007
All other forms are currently in time-compliance
USCIS is making every effort to address the delay in its data entry and fee receipting process. The prioritization of data entry for specific form-types was a proactive measure on the part of Service Centers to address the unprecedented level of H-1B filings received on April 2nd and 3rd, 2007, as well as the unprecedented level of filings for other immigration benefits. USCIS would like to assure its customers that the delay in data entry and fee receipting will not affect Change of Status or Extension of Stay eligibility, assuming all other eligibility requirements are satisfied. USCIS would also like to assure its customers that per existing policies and procedures, requests for Premium Processing Service will continue to be processed within 15 days. USCIS wishes to assure all customers that the original received date (the date which the document is date stamped) will be honored and recorded on the receipt notice. This date will appear in the "Received Date" box on Form I-797, Notice of Action. The received date is different from the "Notice Date", which also appears on Form I-797. The Notice Date is the date the receipt notice was actually generated.
� USCIS �
Does the above announcement mean that we can expect for all filers before July 13th to receive the receipts by 08/03/2007 ???
Office of Communications
USCIS Update
July 13, 2007
USCIS ISSUES SERVICE CENTER RECEIPTING UPDATE
WASHINGTON � In an effort to give our customers accurate information about current receipting times and service level commitments, United States Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS) is providing the following projections concerning fee receipting and data entry processing of cases currently at USCIS Service Centers as well as the anticipated in time-compliance dates at each site.
California Service Center
USCIS expects to provide in time-compliance for receipting of form types listed below:
Data Entry:
Compliant BY
N-400
7/18/2007
All other forms are currently in time-compliance.
Nebraska Service Center
USCIS expects to provide in time-compliance for receipting of form types listed below:
Data Entry:
Compliant BY
I-131
7/18/2007
I-360
7/18/2007
I-485
7/18/2007
I-140
7/18/2007
N-400
7/18/2007
All other forms are currently in time-compliance.
Texas Service Center
USCIS expects to provide in time-compliance for receipting of form types listed below:
Data Entry:
Compliant BY
I-485 (EB)
8/3/2007
N-400
8/10/2007
I-131
8/3/2007
I-765
8/3/2007
I-140
8/3/2007
All other forms are currently in time-compliance.
Vermont Service Center
USCIS expects to provide in time-compliance for receipting of form types listed below:
Data Entry:
Compliant BY
I-130
7/28/2007
I-751
7/28/2007
N-400
7/28/2007
All other forms are currently in time-compliance
USCIS is making every effort to address the delay in its data entry and fee receipting process. The prioritization of data entry for specific form-types was a proactive measure on the part of Service Centers to address the unprecedented level of H-1B filings received on April 2nd and 3rd, 2007, as well as the unprecedented level of filings for other immigration benefits. USCIS would like to assure its customers that the delay in data entry and fee receipting will not affect Change of Status or Extension of Stay eligibility, assuming all other eligibility requirements are satisfied. USCIS would also like to assure its customers that per existing policies and procedures, requests for Premium Processing Service will continue to be processed within 15 days. USCIS wishes to assure all customers that the original received date (the date which the document is date stamped) will be honored and recorded on the receipt notice. This date will appear in the "Received Date" box on Form I-797, Notice of Action. The received date is different from the "Notice Date", which also appears on Form I-797. The Notice Date is the date the receipt notice was actually generated.
� USCIS �
Does the above announcement mean that we can expect for all filers before July 13th to receive the receipts by 08/03/2007 ???
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grupak
06-11 10:21 AM
We have 3 bills!
Thanks IV.
We need to make the call and make it a success.
Thanks IV.
We need to make the call and make it a success.
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eb3_nepa
03-12 07:51 PM
I am an IV old timer and I was wondering where the IV old timers were?
black_logs, ragz4u. logiclife, waldenpond, berkleybee, shilpa?
How many core IV members have already received their GCs besides Aman, just curious?
Of late is there anything of note even happening on the lobbying front? IV seems to have become another Immigration Portal kinda website where people are now posting all sorts of info, some of it not even immigration related.
It would be nice if someone in the core team updated the rest of us, who cannot join the state chapters due to personal reasons on the website.
black_logs, ragz4u. logiclife, waldenpond, berkleybee, shilpa?
How many core IV members have already received their GCs besides Aman, just curious?
Of late is there anything of note even happening on the lobbying front? IV seems to have become another Immigration Portal kinda website where people are now posting all sorts of info, some of it not even immigration related.
It would be nice if someone in the core team updated the rest of us, who cannot join the state chapters due to personal reasons on the website.
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I made one, but my servers down *pos server, always down >_<*
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04-29 05:02 AM
just contributed $100 via pay pal. great job IV, trying to convince for friends for more funds.
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amitjoey
09-13 06:32 PM
Regarding the 1st point, we, or at least I, am already trying to recruit as many people as I can, also posted IV posters in a few places.
Does anyone know how the illegals got word out about their rally across the country, or specifically press coverage about it? If so, we can try to use the same source, not for a rally, but to get IV's name out and talk about our major issues reduced to 2-3 points, so it is not confusing for the public.
Regarding, 2nd point, I think we can all contribute small amounts, say $50-100, but unfortunately most of us are stuck in low paying jobs. If we can get employers involved, that could be a better source of funds. Seriously, I dont expect many employers to contribute, but maybe academic employers who are losing funding because their H1-b employees are not authorized to get it, might be more willing to contribute.
Also, is anyone aware of any Indian American politicans, perhaps local Congressmen, that we can contact? I think I read recently of one in Texas.
Here is a story on a senator from Delaware who seems to be suportive of Indian Americans, although the story is on how he made a blunder talking about them:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/07/politics/main1785303.shtml
Also, though you are probably aware of these organizations, maybe we can apporach them to help publicize our cause where it matters:
1) Indian American Republican Council:
http://www.iarcnational.org/
2) Indian American Center for Political Awareness
http://www.iacfpa.org/
I agree with rheoretro, the first thing that any member feeling helpless here should do is to get more publicity for IV. Talk to people in the same situation
who are suffering because of backlog or cannot file because of retrogression.
Please urge all your friends, influence them to contribute to IV.
Lets continue doing that on a daily basis and then if you feel you can do more, start writing to your local representatives, senators, house members.
I have written atleast 2-3 times to my senator on numerous occasions.
I feel, your words, combined with your thoughts about how this affects you helps a lot in conveying and putting the message across.
I just got sending a email message to my senator here, I am going to follow it up with a letter.
Email message reads like this:
Dear Senator Boxer
I have been a legal resident in state of " " for close to 5+/X years and I have been a legal resident in the USA for a total of X years.
I am a legal immigrant, whose application for permanent residency has been pending for the last 3 years.
The U.S. government makes only a certain number of immigrant visas (green cards) available each year and these are allocated among the various immigrant visa categories and countries from which applicants seek to emigrate.
Retrogression: For the past few years, the number of immigrants approved for employment-based immigrant visas has been lower than the number of visas available, resulting in no backlog in visa numbers. Recently, the DOS has seen far more immigrants approved for employment-based immigrant visas and has run out of visa numbers in certain categories, causing a temporary backlog or "retrogression" of visa numbers.
EB-3: This visa category includes employment-based immigrant visas for:
1) professionals with a bachelor's degree
2) skilled workers in positions requiring two or more years of experience or training
3) unskilled workers
Chargeability: Immigrant visa numbers are further apportioned among the various countries from which applicants seek to emigrate. Each country has a limit and each approved applicant is "charged" against his or her country's limit.
Also to complicate the matters, there are those folks that came here illegally that were allowed to change status based on 245(i). Every year in Oct (start of new fiscal year for the govt) 140,000 visas are made avaible for EB3s. These 140,000 visas are divided amongst the different nationalities. Some visas are now going to be eaten up by the surge of 245(i)s from 2001. Irrespective of the the nationality of the 245(i) applicants, they are impacting every category witihn EB3. That is the main reason that almost all EB3 categories have retrogressed and will remain so for a while. Its a grim picture but thats the reality.
We need some intervention from Congress, otherwise people like me will have to wait for years - possibly half a decade or more
I support your opinion that there cannot be any amnesty for illegal immigrants, but there should be emergency relief for legal immigrants stuck in the logjam for years. We ought to make it a little fair for legal, honest and law-abiding legal immigrants.
Please support any bill that gives a temporary relief to legal immigrants (especially Employment based applicants). A temporary increase in the number of Visas allocated to the Employment based categories can substantially alievate some hardship.
Thanks for your understanding
Future Citizen, proud resident of state of California
Thanks
Does anyone know how the illegals got word out about their rally across the country, or specifically press coverage about it? If so, we can try to use the same source, not for a rally, but to get IV's name out and talk about our major issues reduced to 2-3 points, so it is not confusing for the public.
Regarding, 2nd point, I think we can all contribute small amounts, say $50-100, but unfortunately most of us are stuck in low paying jobs. If we can get employers involved, that could be a better source of funds. Seriously, I dont expect many employers to contribute, but maybe academic employers who are losing funding because their H1-b employees are not authorized to get it, might be more willing to contribute.
Also, is anyone aware of any Indian American politicans, perhaps local Congressmen, that we can contact? I think I read recently of one in Texas.
Here is a story on a senator from Delaware who seems to be suportive of Indian Americans, although the story is on how he made a blunder talking about them:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/07/politics/main1785303.shtml
Also, though you are probably aware of these organizations, maybe we can apporach them to help publicize our cause where it matters:
1) Indian American Republican Council:
http://www.iarcnational.org/
2) Indian American Center for Political Awareness
http://www.iacfpa.org/
I agree with rheoretro, the first thing that any member feeling helpless here should do is to get more publicity for IV. Talk to people in the same situation
who are suffering because of backlog or cannot file because of retrogression.
Please urge all your friends, influence them to contribute to IV.
Lets continue doing that on a daily basis and then if you feel you can do more, start writing to your local representatives, senators, house members.
I have written atleast 2-3 times to my senator on numerous occasions.
I feel, your words, combined with your thoughts about how this affects you helps a lot in conveying and putting the message across.
I just got sending a email message to my senator here, I am going to follow it up with a letter.
Email message reads like this:
Dear Senator Boxer
I have been a legal resident in state of " " for close to 5+/X years and I have been a legal resident in the USA for a total of X years.
I am a legal immigrant, whose application for permanent residency has been pending for the last 3 years.
The U.S. government makes only a certain number of immigrant visas (green cards) available each year and these are allocated among the various immigrant visa categories and countries from which applicants seek to emigrate.
Retrogression: For the past few years, the number of immigrants approved for employment-based immigrant visas has been lower than the number of visas available, resulting in no backlog in visa numbers. Recently, the DOS has seen far more immigrants approved for employment-based immigrant visas and has run out of visa numbers in certain categories, causing a temporary backlog or "retrogression" of visa numbers.
EB-3: This visa category includes employment-based immigrant visas for:
1) professionals with a bachelor's degree
2) skilled workers in positions requiring two or more years of experience or training
3) unskilled workers
Chargeability: Immigrant visa numbers are further apportioned among the various countries from which applicants seek to emigrate. Each country has a limit and each approved applicant is "charged" against his or her country's limit.
Also to complicate the matters, there are those folks that came here illegally that were allowed to change status based on 245(i). Every year in Oct (start of new fiscal year for the govt) 140,000 visas are made avaible for EB3s. These 140,000 visas are divided amongst the different nationalities. Some visas are now going to be eaten up by the surge of 245(i)s from 2001. Irrespective of the the nationality of the 245(i) applicants, they are impacting every category witihn EB3. That is the main reason that almost all EB3 categories have retrogressed and will remain so for a while. Its a grim picture but thats the reality.
We need some intervention from Congress, otherwise people like me will have to wait for years - possibly half a decade or more
I support your opinion that there cannot be any amnesty for illegal immigrants, but there should be emergency relief for legal immigrants stuck in the logjam for years. We ought to make it a little fair for legal, honest and law-abiding legal immigrants.
Please support any bill that gives a temporary relief to legal immigrants (especially Employment based applicants). A temporary increase in the number of Visas allocated to the Employment based categories can substantially alievate some hardship.
Thanks for your understanding
Future Citizen, proud resident of state of California
Thanks
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03-11 02:35 PM
My analysis for EB2. If some one is not agree with this, please ignore it but don't put any rude comment.
DOL approved labor as follow
For India (all category assume 50% are EB2)
2005 : 1350 (EB2-I : 675
2006 : 22298 (EB2-I : 11149)
2007 : 24573 (EB2-I : 12286)
2007 before July 2007 (approximately 65%)
July 2007 : 15972 (EB2-I : 7986)
2007 labor approval is for FY (up to Sept 07). If person have approved labor before July 2007, 99% he/she might have filed I 485.
Consider derivative (Dependent) factor : 2.5
Following numbers of I 485 pending applications for EB2-I:
2006 : 27872
2007 : 19965
Total : 47837
As per Sen Kyl's information pending I 485 for EB2 India : 51717
PD Before 31 Dec 2005 : 3880
PD Before 31 Dec 2006 : 31752
PD before July 2007 : 51717
If this data is true, It would be easily hit early 2006 cut off date for EB2-I in August/Sept 2009 VB
Good luck to every one !
(Note: I got my Green card in 2007)
Very nice and good job. Do you or anybody have similar numbers for EB3-I?
DOL approved labor as follow
For India (all category assume 50% are EB2)
2005 : 1350 (EB2-I : 675
2006 : 22298 (EB2-I : 11149)
2007 : 24573 (EB2-I : 12286)
2007 before July 2007 (approximately 65%)
July 2007 : 15972 (EB2-I : 7986)
2007 labor approval is for FY (up to Sept 07). If person have approved labor before July 2007, 99% he/she might have filed I 485.
Consider derivative (Dependent) factor : 2.5
Following numbers of I 485 pending applications for EB2-I:
2006 : 27872
2007 : 19965
Total : 47837
As per Sen Kyl's information pending I 485 for EB2 India : 51717
PD Before 31 Dec 2005 : 3880
PD Before 31 Dec 2006 : 31752
PD before July 2007 : 51717
If this data is true, It would be easily hit early 2006 cut off date for EB2-I in August/Sept 2009 VB
Good luck to every one !
(Note: I got my Green card in 2007)
Very nice and good job. Do you or anybody have similar numbers for EB3-I?
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07-20 10:31 AM
What is PMP?
Project management professional.
Please visit www.pmi.org for more info.
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gcpool
10-02 02:20 PM
Its not a case of inter filing where people are using other peoples priority date. Thats long gone. This is using ones own earlier I-140 priority date. Its not an easy process. It involves redoing everything. It involves time. It involves losing a lot of money. And we too have waited in the line. Some people are fortunate to apply in EB2 and some have to do it in EB3. Then as years go by they become eligible to apply in EB2.(When they are promoted to be manager, they are eligible to apply in EB2 quota) So that does not mean they now should go and stand behind the queue. So be kind. Everyone is in the queue. And I am working for a reputed company and not like what you have described. I was frustrated like you when USCIS did many things like opening up the queue for EB3 and recently EB2. People who applied for Green Cards after me have got it. Many even have become citizens.
Put efforts to better the whole process..
Put efforts to better the whole process..
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belmontboy
04-18 06:03 PM
The true way is -- 1) Recapture, 2) Exclude dependents from Visa Number
Also exluding STEM grads from quota.
Also exluding STEM grads from quota.
lacrossegc
12-02 12:38 AM
Awesome idea, the problem is , i hope i am wrong; the IV "browsing community" is so fractured and pesimistic. any mention of "paid" membership will turn them off .... maybe thats what we need ... Only serious members who really want to make a difference ....
the others just tend to make a lot of noise and are a distraction towards our goal
how about breaking this into multiple levels.
(1) account maintenance fee: charge $1/month for maintaining the account, members who paid this fee will have read access to all threads except IV core updates. IV can generate $25K a month with this option, this can cover day to day expenses.
(2) usage fee: charge $??/month for using the IV forums, members who paid this free can post and respond and read IV updates.
the others just tend to make a lot of noise and are a distraction towards our goal
how about breaking this into multiple levels.
(1) account maintenance fee: charge $1/month for maintaining the account, members who paid this fee will have read access to all threads except IV core updates. IV can generate $25K a month with this option, this can cover day to day expenses.
(2) usage fee: charge $??/month for using the IV forums, members who paid this free can post and respond and read IV updates.
Saralayar
04-01 10:07 PM
Hi when485,
Our PDs are close.Mine is jul-06 eb3/I. My family's all 485s had a soft LUD on 03/31/2009 and today 04/01/2009. I am thinking it could be because of 2nd finger print notices for our family.
What do you mean by "Our PDs are close"?. I don't understand. Your PD is July 2006 that too EB3/India.???:confused:
Our PDs are close.Mine is jul-06 eb3/I. My family's all 485s had a soft LUD on 03/31/2009 and today 04/01/2009. I am thinking it could be because of 2nd finger print notices for our family.
What do you mean by "Our PDs are close"?. I don't understand. Your PD is July 2006 that too EB3/India.???:confused:
